Hi all, I'm planning to do a quad speaker set up for an installation and am composing in Ableton, but was recommended to also use PD for the spatialisation. The link to this documentation is not available on the PD site.. Does anyone have any tutorials or code for how to set up a workflow for this? I'm a complete beginner.. Thanks!

@ato There are at least two options.......
https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/9803/grambilib-new-ambisonics-externals-for-pd
@Ricky can help with any questions about grambilib, which is simple to use.
and the CEAMMC library of externals also contains tools for spatialisation...
https://github.com/uliss/pure-data/releases
David.

pd or standalone max are a bit simpler because you at least get rid of the routing chaos in ableton and roll your own in wysiwyg style.

how to code something mainly depends on what it is.

there are stereo matrix formats, there is ambisonics, there is vbap, there are other methods of cicular panning, you can just alternate between channels and treat them as 4 mono systems... what do you want to do?

Also note, if you use PlugData, then you can insert Pd directly into Ableton tracks as VST plugins. At that point, it's similar to a Max4Live device -- if you have a Max4Live license, you may as well use that, but if not, PlugData would have a similar workflow and should be more convenient to integrate into the workflow than standalone Pd.

Otherwise Obineg is right: the forum can help you with implementation, but it can't decide which spatialization technique best suits your needs. You'll have to decide that first.

hjh

Thanks for the help! I only need a simple setup, so alternating between channels and treating them as 4 mono systems is the way to go. I've already integrated PlugData into Ableton. Now I just need to figure out the next steps for implementation.

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@ato said:

alternating between channels and treating them as 4 mono systems

A static multichannel installation? Sound is not panning across the speakers? Strictly alternating on/off, not panned in-between?
What is your wish for Pd? Please elaborate.