Hi,

and please excuse me, I am new to pd, a man on escape from MAX. My patch that I need to convert to PD hosts VSTi's. I installed latest PD Xtended, seems to work fine.

Most of the plugins that I load into the vst~ external display empty }blackbackround] windows instead of their GUIS. This happened with NI FM7 and Absynth. PLogue Bidule displays its main bits, but Groups as well as loaded VST plugins inside Bidule are displayed incorrectly. Random errors occur. I wonder, about the GUI problems mainly, could they be caused by some missing stuff that I need to install, or is it :not reallz working : this external...

all the best,
itchy

hi and welcome to pd. as far as i know vst implementation in pd has always been shaky at the best and completely broken in the worst case.

the good news is that vst sucks anyway, and if you invest some time and effort into pd you can learn to create your own synths and effects from basic building blocks.

Sorry hardoff but i have to disagree with you on that one... There are many brilliant vsts (payware and freeware) which work a charm with the [vst~] object. As far as FM7 and Absynth are concerned, that's rather strange because i could even load reaktor5...

Unless that is what you want to do, sometimes it's not very productive to reinvent the wheel...

yeah sorry it was a stupid thing to say. i dunno, i used VST and Audiounits and all that stuff for a few years and it just annoyed me and i never got anything done with it. anyway, my bad. sorry.

Apologies accepted

Hi guys,

thanks for your responses. Yes I want to make mz own instruments, but I have spent too many years on making what i have so far and cannot wait to make some noise. I am gonna have a look on the web, if i can find some info how to make it work, but seriously, if you have suggestions on what to check on my computer, your welcome>)

if you are going to reinvent the wheel you may as well make it so it supports OSC though right?
making and using your own instruments is so wonderful but people have made some really impressive stuff obtainable for free
i didn't even realize there was a vst~ object
i love the smell of pure data working the mechanical innards of my compy in the morning

@domien said:

vsts (payware and freeware) which work a charm ....

i should have noted that i run it all on win.xp bleh.

i didnt object to a kind decision to be given komplet from ni, you know. samplitude is also a fantastic piece of software. my max patch goes in the direction to opensource software with a hardware controller. the controller is a bangingable tough box, that is based on midibox circuits. osc is a must. The key think though is a succesfull conversion of ideas into soft/hardware.
i wish for nothing more than having it all under control from one screen with more fucked up ways of editing data than ableton. its just so i can go more direct into the computer with my improvising . i mean to be able to connect spirits with another improviser via soft/hardware and listen to the audio results, same as recording a field of sounds that you two are performing in.
it be wicked if i could be running this on linux in notime:]