error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error

Hi, Puredata Pd 0.51.2 refuses to open audio. Everytime I try to setup audio I get "error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error" on the console.

I have tryied with the MOTU interface and built-in iMac audio interface and the behaviour is the same.

It use to work before. I have tryied older Pd versions with same results.

My setup is:
iMac (21.5-inch, 2017)
macOS Catalina 10.15.7 (19H2)
MOTU Ultralite mk3 hybrid
Pd Pd 0.51.2

Thanks!

@Coco Probably new permissions need to be set. See this recent but short thread..... https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/13044/can-i-safely-upgrade-to-macos-10-15
The OS will see every new Pd executable as a threat until you tell it you are happy to risk everything for Pd.
It seems you will not be the only one with problems.
David.

@whale-av David:

Thanks for your fast and kindly response.

I think I have done everything: trying older pd versions, opening the first time with right click, check file permissions, change file permissions with command line... but nothing seems to work.

I mean, the app seems runs ok, it ask for permission to access my folders at the first time, and open patches ok. But it refuses to open PortAudio every time I click on DSP, or when I made changes to Audio Configuration.

I was wondering if maybe Jack is needed... is the only thing I did't check...

Thanks again David.

I'm having the same problem on Catalina.

I thought this might be solved by the variety of solutions offered up online including granting permissions via terminal and deleting .plists but neither has worked for me. I also can't use Audacity I suspect because of the same issue. Anyone any ideas?

@whale-av, @ricky:

I was trying to use the python pyo library and got the same error.
Looking for a solution, I found this link:
https://cycling74.com/forums/internal-portaudio-error/replies/1

I created a new admin user on my mac, and it worked for me.

But I still don't know why I can't use Pd with the original user, who also belongs to the Admin group ...

Might try that! Thanks for the lead, @coco.

@Coco Did you recently upgrade your OS?

Yes @ricky, I´m Catalina 10.15.7 (19H15) now.

If you know how to compile you could try to enable the PortAudio debug (PA_ENABLE_DEBUG_OUTPUT) flag?

@Coco Did you get it to work for your normal user by comparing the ~/Library/Audio folder with the new one that works?
David.

Hi @coco. Your solution fixed my problem. This isn't ideal but Pd is working the way it should. How do we repair/reset/amend user privileges on our existing user accounts, I wonder? I flagged this with Miller.

hi everyone. I just solved this problem in my machine. Looking around some foruns, I've found this clue: problems with AU plugins. Try to delete some plugins that doesn't work in these folders: ~/Library/Audio/Plugins or Users/Library/Audio/Plugins...

I've wrote some test plugins as VST and AU format. I've deleted them and Pd returned to work just fine.

@danielsomar - you're not wrong. I had some development plugs from a friend on my machine. I deleted those and that solved the issue. In my case, the issue was some AU devices.

This also fixed a related error that cropped up in Audacity, too. This 'solution' makes little sense to me.

@ricky, nice. But, man, some stuffs go crazy senseless on Pd. I guess the file tree might be used for Pd somehow.

@danielsomar said:

hi everyone. I just solved this problem in my machine. Looking around some foruns, I've found this clue: problems with AU plugins. Try to delete some plugins that doesn't work in these folders: ~/Library/Audio/Plugins or Users/Library/Audio/Plugins...

I've wrote some test plugins as VST and AU format. I've deleted them and Pd returned to work just fine.

@danielsomar's solution worked for me - specifically removing the 'BlackHole.driver' and the 'MMAudio Device.driver'.

Hi all!

It’s been a very long time since I have been in the forum.

Ihave resurrected an old peace, and I am running David Wilcox’s PD compiled version MacBook Pro, and one pro chip. PD.52 – ARM.

I got it going!, Then I found the compiled abstractions by Andrew Brown, which look fantastic! I did this to rebuild some of the parts of patches no longer supported.

Came back to work on my patch and I’m getting an internal port error. PD doesn’t want to work/send audio out the headphone jack. Again, I had this all working when I first downloaded the latest version… with the headphone jack(!). Not sure what the culprit is. I did reach read this thread, but I don’t think I have any AU plug-ins that would cause this problem.

Any and all help would be most appreciated

all best,
d

macbook pro, late 2021,
M1 pro chip
monterey

Hey there !

Same issue for me happened this morning....
Occures on Ventura 13.0.1 (M2).

I tried to do what everybody suggested on this post but nothing worked for me, any ideas ?

Best regards