I'm a bit late to this, but the video/patch I posted a little while ago might be useful for you

Here's a fairly standard granular patch system made in "vanilla" Pd. Enjoy!
https://github.com/yannseznec/ys.granular

and here's a video tutorial that explains the patch:

wow looks amazing! I will definitely have a play with this.

in the longer run, I feel like it would make sense for the border, background, and label to all have editable colors as well! maybe I'll stick a feature request on the main Pd code repo one day.

@Balwyn oh hey that's a pretty clever trick! I'll do that for now.

@whale-av so if the array name can normally be hidden...how do I do that? I couldn't find anything in any of the reference files about that. or, in fact, changing colour or size of the black border, or label font size or colour.

sure, the whole patch is here: https://github.com/yannseznec/ys.granular

ah ha that makes sense. so...is there no option for hiding the name of the array?

I've been meaning to bring up this issue for years, but never manage to remember: I can never seem to manage to hide the name of an array. Nothing changes at all if I right-click on the array and select "Hide object name and arguments"...the name just stays there:

what am I missing?

@lacuna yes!!!

that is very elegant, and works perfectly. Thanks so much!