you would save it in the top parent patch and send it in when it loads probably.

https://patchstorage.com/simplified-pixel-line-program-pd-vanilla-gem/

here I found it

I deleted voice router from main and it stopped sending errors.

@ddw_music sudo installs gem for you. It installs it better somehow and it actually works. I tried all the other instructions and it never worked at all . Maybe I was a beginner, but im not even going to try it again for the 20th time.

no it never works easily I was learning pd for a year before I ever got it to work. I only ever got gem to work from sudo . the cia people dont even do anything someone else installs it for them

try installing it on another computer the same way and maybe you can see it there .

bezier curve system and pixel pen

https://patchstorage.com/bezier-curve-and-pixel-pen-pd-vanilla-gem/

you make a pd "sub-patch" object. you put object and type pd and then a space and a name.. and off click so then you are immediately inside the sub patch page. then you right click for properties. you make it yes graph-on parent. and then you move it with margin in the properties window and the size is also in the properties window. then if you go to the above page parent page and you see the object box you made except its larger according to the properties you entered on the inside page.