Hi everybody, I've worked on PD-extended until today, but now I would like to use vanilla, since extended version is not up-to-date anymore.

I can't manage to install the library I need to have the same object I've always used in ext version , like the objects that belong to the cyclone, zexy, or gem libraries.
I would like to know exactly what I need to do step by step to install all those library. I'm a mac user.
Many thanks,
Gabriele

Latest vanilla doesn't have deken installed. The next vanilla release will have it. For now go to deken's page and copy the deken-plugin.tcl and put it in ~/Library/Pd/deken-plugin (actually on my mac I put it in /Library/Pd/deken-plugin, you'll might need to create the "deken-plugin" directory). Once it's there, Pd should see it and you should get the "Find externals" menu under Help..

After installing an external via deken you need to use [declare] right? I tried [declare -stdpath zexy] but still trying to use [zexy/l2s] was not working. Do I still need to use [zexy/...].

I am trying to convert my pd-extended patch to vanilla like everybody!
Thanks

@EEight I think you should use [declare -lib zexy]. I tried stdlib but it didn't work for me either...
Of course, once you declare the library you shouldn't need to prepend its name in the object creation..

Ok, I've followed your instructions. Deken is ok.

Then I installed the first library (zexy/2.2.6svn). Is it the right one?

Then I tried to install Gem and Cyclone, as well. This is how my Pd folder under /User/Library/ looks like.

As you can see, I get error both for cyclone and Gem.

I put this line in the Startup Flag field:

-lib zexy/zexy -lib cyclone/cyclone -lib Gem/Gem

Is it correct?

If I want to use a zexy object like "nop", I have to write zexy/nop inside the object, even if I loaded library on StartUp putting -lib zexy/zexy in the flag field. If I only write "nop" inside the object I get an error.

I'm testing it both in 32 and 64 bit.

Many thanks,
G

For cyclone you don't have to load it on startup but you have to include its path to Pd's search path. For zexy and Gem you need the startup flag. But why do you write -lib zexy/zexy? You should write -lib zexy
The same goes for Gem. The comments say that Gem/Gem can't be loaded. Just write -lib Gem in the startup flags..
As I can see in your console comments zexy is loading. I can't understand why you need to write [zexy/nop] instead of just [nop].
In ~/Library/Pd you can get rid of the .zip files.

@alexandros Thenk you again for your help. I've fixed the line in StarUp field, but I still get an error when Gem is loaded.
As you can see, some zexy's objects work without prefix, some not. All the cyclone objects need the prefix cyclone/.
Is there a way to avoid that?
Many thanks

G

The cyclone objects need the prefix because you haven't set the correct path to Pd's search path. You've set the Pd/ directory (as I can see from your image) while you should set the cyclone directory which is probably in the Pd directory.
I just realized that [nop] is an abstraction and since you load zexy as a library (which is correct) the path to the abstraction is not set, so you need to prepend "zexy". This doesn't apply to zexy's objects, but only to abstractions. The objects are included in the zexy.pd_darwin file, while the abstractions are not.

Are you sure you have a Gem directory in ~/Library/Pd and that in there there is a Gem.pd_darwin file?

@alexandros Ok, thanks. I think we're very close to the solution!

As you can si, I've fixed ht path and startup flags. Now I can load cyclone and zexy objects withitou prepending the librarie's name. The only problem I still have is in GEM: I get an error on startup and the PD windows report many errors when I load a gem object, as you can see in the image. What I can do?

Many thanks,
G

Solved!
I've downloaded this with the patch and copied directly in Pd folder!
Many thanks,
G

Sorry.. Late..

But I'm using vanilla with some libraries, and I did the download of library with deken, and add in Pd -> Preferences -> Path... the directory library which is installed in ˜/Library/Pd/libraryInstalledWithDeken .

For Gem, I do like IOhannes splain in this thread: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2015-08/111112.html

Resuming:

• Download Gem and the bugfix from: http://gem.iem.at/
• Install following instructions.

Here the things are working..

ps.: Gem have only 32bits compilation, pd-vanilla 32bits is required to have Gem working well.

Hi all

I think Denken plugin is awesome. So long I have been able to use zexy/maxlib objects in vanilla.

I tried the same for Maelstrom's phasor objects (http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/10192/vphasor-and-vphasor2-subsample-accurate-phasors
) but I couldn't find them when using Help ---> Find Externals.
I'm using vanilla 0.47.1.

Any hints on this?

Cheers!

Obviously nobody (including the maker) hasn't uploaded the binaries to Pd's deken repository, that's why you can't find it there. But the thread you posted includes the source code and a makefile as a .zip file so you can download it and compile it yourself.

Hi Alexandros

Thanks for replying. That's out of my reach right now, but it is nice to know.

Best.

Why is it out of your reach? It shouldn't difficult. What's your OS?

Yeah, I mean, will I have to know xCode for this?
I like very much patching but have none experience with code export or compiling stuff...
my OSX is 10.8.5.
do you know any web references that could guide anybody through this process? I definitely wanna dive into this, especially if it is usable for libpd as well (I mean, compiling this objects and then using them with libpd).

cheers Alexandros

According to Maelstorm himself, a "make" is enough to make his object.
Download the .zip file and open a terminal (Applications -> Utilities -> Terminal.app). In there type "cd " (space included) and drag and drop the folder of the object (the one that is unzipped), and hit enter. Then type "make" and hit enter again. If everything is already sorted out by the developer, the object should compile without a problem. If it doesn't compile, come back here and post the error messages that appear in the terminal.

Hi Alexandro, and thanks for your advice. I tried what you suggested and initially got this error message:

/bin/sh: cc: command not found
make: *** [vphasor~.o] Error 127

I deleted the folder, unzipped and re-do your instructions and still got the same.

Should I end up with a .pd_darwin file?

I think you're missing the command line tools which are provided by XCode. Can't remember how to install them, but having XCode installed (which you probably should?), google how to install the included command line tools.
Once you have these tools, "make" will be recognized and will actually try to make the binary.
Eventually you should end up with either a .pd_darwin or a .d_fat binary, not sure which of the two.

I haven't used Mac in a while, but you should be able to install the command line tools without installing all of XCode.

Yeah you can, I downloaded command line tools for my OS X (10.8.5) from the Developer Downloads area. However I still got this error after "make":

cc -I"/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include/pd" -DPD -DVERSION='"0.0"' -arch ppc -arch i386 -arch x86_64 -mmacosx-version-min=10.4 -fPIC -I/sw/include -Wall -W -g -ftree-vectorize -ftree-vectorizer-verbose=2 -fast -o "vphasor~.o" -c "vphasor~.c"
clang: error: unknown argument: '-ftree-vectorizer-verbose=2' [-Wunused-command-line-argument-hard-error-in-future]
clang: note: this will be a hard error (cannot be downgraded to a warning) in the future
make: *** [vphasor~.o] Error 1

I'm gonna go ahead and install xCode 5.1 and then try installing command line tools again from there.

Cheers.