this is the patch i have been playing live with for the last 2 years or so.

hopefully it will work for anyone with pd-extended. i have a feeling that some bits woN't work on windows though.

i have included a bunch of samples, but you can delete them and add your own if u want.

http://www.m-pi.com/ma4u.zip

Well, we'd just love to have you!!

And, wouldn't that just wake up ye olde India International Centre too~:o)

As things stand, we are actually full up on almost all counts with regard to CeC & CaC 2008.

H_o_w_e_v_e_r, I strongly suspect that one of the scheduled performers will probably have to cancel his participation sometime soon.

And, if you want the slot, I will then immediately come back to you with it.

The only UNmusical note is that we can't pay you a penny. At best, we *might* be able to get you a discounted room in the IIC guesthouse, where most of the incoming participants are already booked in,... and that too, only if you can confirm your participation quick enough.

But, we do work very hard to make it worth everyone's while to pile in, and I think that it's an indicator of our success in this regard that good folks love to come back for this most peculiar madness that we've got going. In fact, our palsied 22min. "internal" videofilm of the blast (edit: in Feb-2007) was actually telecast nationally across India this summer, and then, it all somehow also got listed by 'Time Out Delhi' amongst the 'best' 15 art/cultural festivals due up in Delhi over the coming "season" (LOL~:o)!!

So, the whole situation is marvellously almost out of our control by now, and it would be great to have you help crank that all up.

My regular email address is shankarbaba[at]vsnl.net

And, what country do you belong to? ~ just in case I am already in touch with your embassy here, or some other such possibly useful thing.

Keep well ~ Shankar

Truly awesome patch. I have been messing around with it and am in absolute awe. I want to try and find a way to create a set list for this patch so in addition to having a random mode, I could create a set list and have the files come up in a specific order. I have worked with max patches that do this, but am new to pd. Have you ever tried anythign like that?

to set up a set list,

...the arrays storing the sound files are all numbered, so you could use those numbers to order the loops.

or else, maybe have a look at this object: [msgfile]

or this one: [playlist]

yes, i did try to make everything nice and organized at one point. with different folders for bass and drums and whatnot...but the chaotic stuff kept winning me over,,,

That's chaos that makes sense~:o)

However, how come you didn't build in a sampler, so as to record new files into the collection on the fly?

Keep well ~ Shankar

thanks for the suggestions. What I ended up doing was just adding a couple of keys that advance to the next array or the previous array. Since the arrays load the files alphabetically from the audioloops folder, I just numbered the files in the set order.

So now I use my folder window as a view of the set list, i have keys to advance through the files in order, and the last mod I made was to create a viewer that shows which array (file) is playing that I can scroll through to jump to a specific file. I'm goign to add some volume controls and perhaps another track or two.

This thing is loads of fun to play with......

it does work on windows. Why is this so great? Your spectacular.

would love to see what you've done with the patch fkmooney if you'd like to upload it

thanks again for this introduction to PD Hard-off...
I'm loving this app

this is old... BUT

when I try to open this I get this error:

spigot~
... couldn't create
 spigot~
... couldn't create
 spigot~
... couldn't create
 spigot~
... couldn't create
 spigot~
... couldn't create
 spigot~
... couldn't create
wahwah~: an audio wahwah, version 0.1 (ydegoyon@free.fr)
 spigot~
... couldn't create
 spigot~
... couldn't create
 spigot~
... couldn't create
 spigot~
... couldn't create
expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU General Public License 
[makesymbol] part of zexy-2.2.1 (compiled: Jul 21 2008)
    Copyright (l) 1999-2007 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute & IEM
[msgfile] part of zexy-2.2.1 (compiled: Jul 21 2008)
    Copyright (l) 1999-2007 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute & IEM
[list2symbol] part of zexy-2.2.1 (compiled: Jul 21 2008)
    Copyright (l) 1999-2007 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute & IEM
[folder_list] $Revision: 1.12 $
    written by Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@at.or.at>
    compiled on Jul 21 2008 at 06:08:28 
setting pattern to default: C:/Users/Cody/Desktop/ma4u/*
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu.
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
expr divide by zero detected

whats up?

do you have pd-extended?
are you running it on windows?
as he says there gona be problems runing this patch other o.s. different than mac or linux.
there are problems in pd-extended installation for some objects, like spigot~. you have to look up for the solution for each one or... change yout s.o.
meaybe these http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-1181-spigot gona help you.
goodluck

I was on windows using pd-extended. I have however just (finally!!) gotten extended to compile properly on linux, so now I get to try again

Thanks for the reply

GREAT

it works on linux... thanks

Just fantastic work, man. Thanks for including all the loops that you did - I'm a total home noodler and this is just fantastic amounts of fun.

This spigot~ object is annoying for windows users.
I tried several times to get it, to find the dll but unsuccessfully...
Well, does anybody have a solution?

here`s an abstraction that does the same thing as the external.

sorry, this patch is really old, and i don`t use troublesome externals like [spigot~] anymore.

just put this abstraction in the same folder as my patch, or else in your extra folder for pd. then load the patch, and it should all work ok.

not sure about the other externals in the patch though, they may or may not work on your computer.

good luck. matt

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/spigot~.pd

Hi hardoff,

Simply awesome! Many thanks for this abstraction I'm gonna look now, very useful.
But unfortunately, this morning as I was working on your patch, I found an other external made by Yves Degoyon : playlist and this one, i think, won't be so easy to redo...

After some tests, it seems the patch is working in spite the playlist objetc isn't recongnised. I noticed as well some strange effect on soundfiles I import within the audioloops folder. Each of them is played with a different rate, sometimes very fast, sometimes very slowly...

If you have -once again - a solution, you're very welcome!

>>Each of them is played with a different rate, sometimes very fast, sometimes very slowly...<<

that's just a part of the patch. it doesn't do "intelligent" timestretching like ableton live or something. it just plays the samples faster or slower to match the tempo. yes, it sounds "strange", but that's the way i made this patch.

yop, I understand now. that's really a great job. Particulary with all your audioloops

first off let me say this patch is killer and i'm having an awesome time toying around with it! i'm very new to PD and hoping i'll be able to make something remotely close to your patches eventually.

i was wondering some more about what hummm said concerning tempos and the loops i introduce--for some reason, even when i adjust the bpm to what the loop actually is, i can't seem to get the loop to sound right.

i guess i'm basically just wondering if there's a way to get the loops to sounds appropriate, because what i'm really hoping to do w/this is patch is establish the original loopand then deconstruct it/add other loops, etc. don't know if this makes sense or if there's an answer, but let me know what you all think!

thanks again for sharing a very sweet patch!

hi, i am hardoff. but now i am 'mod' because i terminate the spam from this forum.

are you using 44.1khz samples? i think this patch is hardcoded only to run at that rate.
however, if the problems you get with audio are little pulses on every beat, then that's due to the click-removal system. it would be possible to bypass that system while the sample plays back normally, but it would require a fair bit of work.

@mod said:

hi, i am hardoff. but now i am 'mod' because i terminate the spam from this forum.

So now we finally now you really are a shapeshifter...