@whale-av Now i got a new problem with saving the abstraction using menusave message: since my abstractions are created dynamically by attempting to create a second abstraction pd crashes with a segmentation fault error! However your second solution with simulating mouse clicks seems to work

@amirt Do you mean the contents of the abstraction are created dynamically, or the abstractions are placed in the one (or more) sub-patches dynamically?
If the latter then it should work....... demo3.zip
TURN the volume DOWN..... it will create 10 copies.

If the former then don't forget that when you save an abstraction all copies will change to that saved file and be re-loaded.
David.