I am using the obj from the pd messages listed in https://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/TipsAndTricks#undocumented-pd-internal-messages to create new subpatches on fly. Inside of my subpatch i have a loadbang which should send a bang write on creation, but it omits no bang. I am sure this has to do with using the obj message, since creating a new subpatch instace per hand i get the loadbang.

This is how i create the new subpatch instances (apple):

And inside each subpatch:

@amirteymuri Hi, you can send a loadbang to a subpatch with the message "loadbang" sent to the subpatch:

[;                (
[pd-apple loadbang(

Since you are using an abstraction, I think the way to do it would make a receive with the "number" of apple in the name, then immediately send the receive a bang when you create it
edit: see this thread https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2011-02/086968.html
another option is to use initbang instead apparently (currently in iemguts)

Hi seb-harmonik.ar, i can't send loadbangs to the subpatches since the have a $1 in their names, and i think it is not possible to write such a name to a pd message?

[;                            (
[pd-apple Some-Number loadbang(

And since those $1 are created dynamically i also can't create a receive object with a $1 as argument. How would it be possible to write such a receive:

[receive $1(

Is it a pd-version matter? I am using pd-vanilla which also hasn't initbang

for instance, inside your [apple] abstraction you have [receive $1-anapple] that will
send your loadbang
then when you create each abstraction dynamically you do the same as before but add
a second line to your message box you are sending from that sends to this receive:

[;                                  (
[pd-apples-ch1 obj 100 100 apple $1;(
[$1-anapple bang                    (

Perfect! This was exactly what i was looking for! Many Thanks!