hi, new french froggy here

Would like to control local daw from web for launch and maybe write midi clip for sequencing sound, light, video, motor from anywhere.

What i ve done:

Control sound, light, video and esp8266 with daw (ableton)
launch clip with touchosc and touch osc bridge but only on my wlan (udp)
control esp from anywhere
control ableton with serial arduino(hairless)
One solution would be to connect a serial esp8266 to the computer executing ableton.
But I'm pretty sure it's possible to receive MIDI directly from the web to ableton.
I am a noob in programming and network, try different old program of 2012 using node.js and MIDI without success.
I only managed to do a little rhizome server work.
(Https://github.com/sebpiq/rhizome)
Who seems to be able to do what I want.
And i m here with the server running but don't know how send osc Pd or directly MIDI from my distant client

If you have any ideas on how to use rhizome with osc, pd or directly MIDI for launch clip?

Thank you

@yvan Starting at the bottom.....
You can send the same messages that TouchOSC will be sending on your Lan (and any others of course) from your client, over the internet, using Pd as source.
I have not looked at Rhizome in detail, but I imagine Pd on the client can dynamically open ports.

It looks as though it is intended that the client will be running Pd-extended.... so you will use the MrPeach library for OSC........... [packOSC] and [udpsend].
Midi is native in Pd.
If you want to use vanilla on the client you can use the [oscformat] object and [netsend] and with a little work replace the MrPeach objects in the Rhizome patches.

You will need to know the address of the server. So a fixed router web IP address would be useful.
You will need to open the port on your router (the router that your server is hiding behind) for the connection request, AND for the range of ports that the server will give to any clients.

I don't understand what you want to do with the esp8266..... yet.... or how it can be controlled. You mention motors..... so I think it must be that, and that @alexandros might help you with that.

You can certainly use Pd to distribute messages to your daw and?... and? when it receives them from the server, do any necessary logic etc..
If you will be the only web client (one device) then you do not then need Rhizome.
What is the OS of the machine the server is on?
David.

From what I see, the esp8266 is just a wireless module which can be connected to a micro-controller. I'm pretty lost as to what you want to do exactly, but if it's something with Pd and Arduino, probably I can help, if you decide to go that route.

Thank you very much for your answers and your interest

my os is w10

esp 8266 is a wifi microcontroller with 16 gpio. I think use it to play on rhythm ws2812b LEDs, dmx devices, relays, motors.
It will be controlled in wifi since my daw.

Now I would like to connect my daw through a web page or application (mit or blynk) to launch programmed sequence and maybe even edit them live.
Touchdaw or touchosc does not allow me to use my cellular network 4g only wifi or bluetooth
I think it would be easier with me using hello and rtp noon but I only have an android smartphone.
Can pure data transmit information received on the server to daw?
How i can do this?

best regards

Ian

@yvan https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209071989-Apps-for-controlling-Live-with-an-iOS-or-Android-device ....... maybe one of the Android apps can send over the internet?
Ableton Live can receive and send OSC I believe (and Midi of course).
How... https://hexler.net/docs/touchosc-getting-started-midi
Pd can send OSC as I mentioned above....... the objects you use depend on whether you use Pd-extended or Pd-Vanilla.
I am travelling for a couple of days but someone else might help.
Back on Friday I will study Ableton a bit and post a Pd patch for you.
Most people now recommend Pd-Vanilla.... but post back here saying which version of Pd you are using.
David.

@yvan so the esp8266 can be programmed on its own? It's not just a wi-fi addon for micro-controllers? How do you program it? Do you have any resources you can share? Cause Sparkfun doesn't seem to provide any documents about it.

@whale-av But TouchOSC will work over the internet.
Put the IP address of your home connection (the one given by your ISP).
On your home router open the ports (incoming and outgoing as in TouchOSC setup).
On your home router you forward the ports to your computer running Ableton...... and select Ableton as the program.......
Google around for more help.
Gamers are doing this all the time...... check their forums too......
The same can be done for Pd of course.
You will need to fix (nail down) the local ip of your computer as well.
David.

@alexandros the esp8266 can be programmed on it own with arduino ide. And it cost only 4$. You will find lot of tutorial.

@whale-av have allready try this with out sucess. Do you achieve to do it?

can't see host in touch osc with my router ip in setting, It work when i'm on my wlan with my computer ip.

what do you mind "...and select Ableton as the program..."?

you ve right, it's work over internet.
i'm really close to achieve thanks to pd
know i receive osc and want convert it in to midi data
i try this patch

It work like that thx a lot

Continue too dig to make a midi server with rhizome and Pd than you can control from a webpage

hello i'm back,

know would like to reach url with my daw for control my esp chip whithout rewrite code,

like that i keep the possibility to use it without Daw.

the esp is already reachable by ip (ex:192.168.1.xx/gpio/1 = relay on)

Can Pd recieve midi and open specified url?

@yvan [udpsend].... Maybe?
David.

try this without success

sorry again for my poor knowledge

have you an idea?

ok!
it work but have cheated
have use [maxurl] object with get http://
don't find this for Pd maybe httpget?
Sorry to waste tour time