They sure did move to J2! Just installed AVL2017, and "burrito supreme" installed effortlessly, after enabling Debian sid repos. However, l2ork is crashing and misbehaving. Found this old thread while poking around trying to fix that. So far everything else is smooth. I have 2k16 and 2k17 side by side right now on the same HP lappy, and 17 def performs better, and I even get significantly more time out of my old battery. Surprising!

@NoDSP Ha! We are even more in the same boat than we thought!

I still have diehard on my old laptop, but I just finally stepped into modernity with a 64 bit system. I may have compromised my performance on the diehard system with sloppy compiling... Extended was running smoothly, and I suspect most of my troubles with it were actually jack problems, which I found tolerable, but not ideal.

I one hundred percent agree with your assessment of AVL2016, and I say that with complete faith in Gmaq and fam. LTS leaves something to be desired, but it is good to be forced to "live for today." haha!

I'll be checking in and thanks again for your insights.

@NoDSP That is VERY insightful. THANK YOU. I had totally not put that together about jack1. I was actually more worried about the pulse dependencies! Perhaps I'll try vanilla, which probably does 90% of what I need. I'm merely "attached" to extended.

Is anyone out there running pd-l2ork on AVL2016? It installed easily on my Mint partition, by way of the 16.04 PPA but I do most of my work in AVL... kinda hesitant to add repos, and there are long lists of unsatisfied dependencies when I try to compile. Makes me nervous.

Has anyone had any success with this? Has anyone tried the ubuntu PPAs with AVL?

THANKS!
-n!