Ok, I'll try. In next days I'll let you know. Thanks

@whale-av: not sure if first idea is applicable because I had the issue also with "main patch", not only with subpatch/abstraction
@lacuna: it happens (maybe something less than 1 out of 4, let's say each 10 times) when I reopen a saved patch/subpatch/abstraction. Nothing unusual about my setup/screen, I have to pay attention when it happens.
Sometimes I also use Pd on a Linux laptop, and by heart I don't remember the issue, always on Windows desktop

Hi, I need to come back to my problem. I'm now able to fix the "disappeared patch" as suggested by @whale-av. The question is why I get this issue very often when I open an existing patch, both main that subpatch/abstraction? Let's say around 1 out of 4 patch open. It's very bothering and should not happen so frequently. Is there any setting I mistake? Thnks for help

Wow! Thanks for your detailed explanation. I'll take some time to analyze it and trying to apply to my project. Great PD community!

Hi Tim, nice to meet you! Thanks for the answer. So I got a first correct approach. As far as Plugdata is concerned, I'm quite keeping tracked on it, already tried to test some very simple patch in Reaper, both under Windows and Linux. And I like it so much
But I'm a noobie, so not all fully clear to me about it's use.
Two scenarios you quoted:
1 - full project inside Plugdata.
If I put it as a VST/CLAP... in one Reaper track, I don't know how to separate the single sounds on different tracks, if still possible.
2 - single parts of the project (in different Plugdata patches) opened each in a single Reaper tracks: how can I keep shynchronized them? In the whole project I have a "complex" timer that should drive each sound generation block.
Sorry if I'm talking non-sense and thanks again

Hi all, I'm studying Pd since some months. I'd like to have advice on the best workflow from more experts. I mean, I create a whole composition with Pd, exploiting several different sounds, each of them playing in the proper slot of time. After that I'd like to load each "part" in my DAW (Reaper), to make some final editing, FX and mastering. Do you follow similar flow? If yes, which is the best way for doing that: save all sound created with Pd in several different audio files and load each of these in dedicated tracks? Or other better ways? Thanks.

"Edit the #N canvas line to #N canvas 0 0 xsize ysize" => It works!!
Subpatch reappeared. I wonder why it moved, but we got the result...
Grazie mille!

Thanks for your answer.
"Does the sub-patch appear blank in Windows' task-bar?" => YES
"Did you change OS / hardware / displays or screen resolution?" => NO
Other subpatches in the same main work fine.
Only differences I found is that, in working subpatches Properties, I have:
Dimensions XY = 0, 0
In the not working one instead:
Dimensions XY = 85, 60
I haven't set these values (I believe...), and by BTW they are not changable in Properties box. I do not know where to write the info suggested in the link you posted

Hi, in a project I'm working to I've built a simple subpatch with all counters and event management. Everything was working well. Suddenly, don't know why or what happened, if I try to open to edit the subpatch object this is not anymore possible, no canvas opens and I don't know khow to recover what inside. Strange (for me...) thing is that the main program still works, as if the time mng subpatch were still present.
Could someone please help? At least to recover the project inside this subpatch.
I'm using PD vanilla 0.53.2 under Windows OS.
Thanks

My first realization with Pd Vanilla, based on Joahnnes Kepler "Harmonices Mundi" (1619). A simple video mounted to highlight the planets sound.