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...NetPD Drone Day Special is streaming live to http://netpd.org:8010/live.mp3 now
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Hi all,
Saturday 27th of May is Drone Day ( https://droneday.org/ )
I thought I'd start a thread for anyone wanting to do something for it.
Along with a few other netpd users I am hoping to get an all day drone going on over the internet that will evolve slowly and be shaped by whoever wants to log on and join in. The sound will hopefully also be streamed live - I'll give a link nearer the time.
Netpd site here - https://www.netpd.org/
More discussion over on the netpd Discord server here - https://discord.gg/RYbq43DqfX -
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or here in the 'sequencers' folder
https://github.com/MikeMorenoDSP/pd-mkmr -
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Mike Moreno has made these Euclidean rhythm things based on the Stutter patch I think...
https://github.com/MikeMorenoDSP/mian-
https://github.com/MikeMorenoDSP/Euklid -
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new netpd server on discord for organising online jams, getting help, new ideas, etc ...
https://discord.gg/RYbq43DqfX -
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thanks! it would be great to get something like springsound http://www.anckorage.com/spring-sound/ in pd. combining a few spring models in a chain can produce an enormous range of possibilities.
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It's not obvious!
Routing MIDI internally requires a 'virtual midi driver' which you can set up with something like MidiYoke http://www.midiox.com/ or LoopMidi http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html
I'm not on Windows so I can't give you anything more specific.For routing audio you might need something like Jack https://jackaudio.org/downloads/ or Virtual Audio Cable https://vb-audio.com/Cable/
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I believe you could make a virtual instrument or effect out of a Pd patch using Camomile https://github.com/pierreguillot/Camomile - then it would appear as a VST instrument in Cakewalk.
Another option would be to route the sound from Pd into an audio channel on Cakewalk but I don't know how internal audio routing works on Windows.
Or (least complicated but maybe less interesting) you could of course just sample the sounds you make in Pd and collage them together in Cakewalk or perhaps load them up as samples in a virtual sampler instrument. -
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Just in case anyone is having similar problems here's what I've done:
I had an old USB 'iMic' kicking around (USB mic/line in and jack output) which I've plugged in. Selecting that for input and output instead of the built-in mic and output keeps the coreaudiod activity down to a more reasonable 6%. So I assume something is going wrong between Pd, the coreaudiod driver/component thing and the built in mic/output. -
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@whale-av thanks for your reply. I don't think I have a feedback loop as I only have the standard input/output setup of built-in microphone and built-in speakers with the normal internal soundcard. If I switch the input/output to none in the Pd settings the 'coreaudiod' does stop gobbling the CPU but beyond that I don't know what I can do to sort out the root cause.
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When I launch Pd and set the DSP going (even if there is no patch open at all) the Mac Activity Monitor shows 'coreaudiod' suddenly jump to using 20-30% CPU and I notice a high-pitched whining sound coming from the computer. Other audio software does not have this effect. Is this normal? If not does anyone know how I can fix it?
Macbook Pro OSX 10.13.6 with Pd-0.51-4
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Here is the beginning of a bookmark collection and general Pd resource in wiki form -
http://puredatabase.wikidot.com/
It's not very logical yet (some doubling up and vague categories) and the formatting is still a bit up in the air but it is a 'work in progress'. Anyone who can see some potential in it and wants to contribute can join wikidot and become an editor.
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@moosi
a WAV file is audio data and cannot contain MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface) information.
A midi file, (usually .mid) contains a sequence of midi events - coded messages to be interpreted by midi instruments or software. A midi file can contain information on pitch, velocity, etc
You say the wav file 'contains the midi audio signal' - perhaps you or someone else has used software that renders a midi file as wav audio? If this is the case you need to go back to the original midi file if you want to work with that data. -
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Online collaborative music system Netpd 2.3.0 has been released!
Get it here: https://www.netpd.org/Download
Lots of updates and improvements plus...
New instruments since last release:
ripple 1: sample-based synthesis similar to soundfonts
ep-mk2: physical model of an e-piano (port of @MikeMorenoDSP ’s ep-mk2)
filtlib: finally a suite of filters (based on mmb) -
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Another sample from the work-in-progress ...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tzS2KU8x31JXoUxmkEr5WikJvxcrgHa4C0vM8LBw49Q
I thought it would be worth having a category for these more self-contained collections
Modular Systems in Pd
ACRE
https://git.iem.at/pd/acreARGOPd
http://gerard.paresys.free.fr/ARGOPd/Automatonism
https://www.automatonism.com/Context
https://github.com/LGoodacre/context-sequencer
https://contextsequencer.wordpress.com/DENSO
https://www.d-e-n-s-o.org/pureDIY
http://pdpatchrepo.info/patches/patch/76Kraken - Virtual Guitar Effects Pedal Board
https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/11999/kraken-a-low-cpu-compact-highly-versatile-guitar-effects-stompboxLWM Rack
http://lwmmusic.com/software-lwmrack.htmlLa Malinette
http://malinette.info/en/#home
Open toolkit for hardware and software interactive art-making systemsMandril Boxes
http://musa.poperbu.net/index.php/puredata-mainmenu-50#mandrilMetastudio
http://www.sharktracks.co.uk/html/software.htmlMuselectron Studio
http://www.muselectron.it/MuselectronStudio/Studio_index.htmlNetPd
http://www.netpd.orgNoxSiren
https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/13122/noxsiren-modular-synthesizer-system-v10Pd Modular Synthesizer
https://github.com/chrisbeckstrom/pd_modular_synthPd-Modular
https://github.com/emssej/pd-modularPdRacks
https://github.com/jyg/pdrProceso
https://patchstorage.com/proceso/Universal Polyphonic Player (UPP)
https://grrrr.org/research/software/upp/
https://github.com/grrrr/uppVVD - Virtual (Virtual) Devices
http://www.martin-brinkmann.de/pd/vvd.zip
“a virtual modular-rack” from http://www.martin-brinkmann.de/pd-patches.htmlXODULAR
https://patchstorage.com/xodular/
A previous incarnation of Automatonism
any others that should be in there?
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@lordgreekfolder cool - well, send me a message on here or use the email on the doc and I'll make you an editor!
and I wasn't referring to your comments!
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Thanks for all the replies to this. It's taken me a while to understand the various responses I got to this idea but it's gradually become a bit clearer. It seems that there are actually several possible Pd wikis that could be made or combined:
A wiki of Pd objects - a sort of in-depth illustrated help with tips and examples for every object and external
A wiki of Pd methods and applications - how to use Pd; e.g. handling midi, random functions, FFT, etc
A wiki of Pd resources, links, and examples - a guide to what is available online, Pd tutorials, instruments - a kind of collective annotated bookmarks collection
The last one is what I personally had in mind initially and I have my own version here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tzS2KU8x31JXoUxmkEr5WikJvxcrgHa4C0vM8LBw49Q/edit?usp=sharing
which anyone is welcome to join in on. It's currently a bit of a mess and not sorted into any real system. I understand from certain replies that some people don't think it's a good idea to make access to other people's work too easy but I think the more fun you have with Pd, without having to learn everything the hard way, the better.
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@JackOats @whale-av I think the problem might be arising from something much simpler - Automatonism works by using the same structure all the time. It needs the main patch file to be called main.pd and it needs to be in the same folder as some other stuff. If you work on the patch and save it with a new name the ability to edit it with the module generator will be lost because it wants to make the modules in a file called main.pd. This is why I suggest simply copying the whole Automatonism folder and renaming the folder (not the files in it) for each project.
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@JackOats it seems like maybe the best thing is to make a copy of the Automatonism folder and rename it for each patch setup you want to keep.
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@JackOats the problems you are having are to do with using Automatonism which is a system built with Pure Data - it makes things easier by giving you a set of readymade modules, but it can be confusing because you are still working within Pure Data. So when you click on File/New Pd gives you a blank Pd canvas - that's normal. It seems that in Automatonism you need to use the main.pd file as the starting point.
Any Automatonism users here who can help?
I had a quick look at the Automatonism docs and found this note...
"9 IMPORTANT!!! In order for Automatonism to work properly, each patch needs to contain the correct folder structure. A folder--that you can name freely--must contain the folder "patch_editor_abs" and the pd-file "main.pd". Copy the entire main parent folder to start a new project. Please do not add the abstractions to your PD Search path, because the state svaing system will be writing textfiles in your external folders."