I am rather new to PD. So far I have been learning by tweaking existing projects.
For some things I want to do I need to use [fiddle~] object. What I need to do in order to get it. Simply typing "fiddle~" into object does not do a thing. This is true for all the other extended objects I tried as well.

@vanakaru

Ctrl+n (new patch)
Ctrl+e (edit patch)
Ctrl+1 (create new object)
type bang in the object

created?
now redo but type dac~ add another object and try this time fiddle~

working?

Yes, it does now. But why?

@vanakaru Maybe you were using a message (Ctrl+2) instead of an object (Ctrl+1)?!

Actually I click on Menu/Put and choose the element(Object in this instance). How would doing "bang" and "dac~" first would make creating "fiddle~" possible or this is not related.

@vanakaru it was just an example, you don't have to create a bang and dac~ before creating a fiddle~ object...
Not sure what is happening!

Thanks anyway to help me get this to work / whatever the reason was.