ok ok so i'll download the patched and rev. engineer or something

ahh very interesting tutorial.
how to get bonk to read sounds from an input and then it maps the input to a certain value and returns it whenever the value is replayed.

well the sequence i had in hydrogen had other samples in it that i did not set bonk to learn. but everytime they played bonk output a certain value(i did notice a different value once or twice in the 5 minutes i let it play) how did it decide what value to output?

@Laserbeak said:

ok,

i wish the tutorial was a bit more detailed as to how and why certain things are connected to bonk....

Okay, thanks. I'll try and add that sometime, I didn't say much about the bonk~ params at all did I, hmm, well because theres quite a bit to say.
I would try just getting it to work with some break loops or something to start with.
I think Koala is suggesting that the array writing part of his patch could be modified replacing fiddle~ with bonk~ and we would have most of a working beat slicer.
Have a look, I'm a bit busy this eve.

ok i'll give it a try. thanks for the tutorial btw. and thanks hu_koala for helping out. will check it out soon

@hu_koala said:

i've got a patch that analyse a sound with fiddle and records the events into an array

it is still a draft i want to make it an abstraction after

Human Koala

uh oh time to learn some french

used babel fish interesting but im not sure what's doing what. will have a deeper look in a bit

ok the upper left part analyse the sample and record the time's event to an array in a relative way ( time from last event ) and absolute ( from t=0s)

the lower part record the events in a 64 step seq

the right parts play the sample from that arrays

HK

when i play the sample it seems to randomise it. is this hat it's supposed to do?

ok

the right up part play the sequenced sample with an simple decay volume env like,
the right down part trigger from t=0 the sample for each hot spot he has found in the sample

so if you have
ta----tic--boum
he plays :
ta----ta---ta

HK

niiiiiiice
i'm starting to understand this a bit more. you'll hear from me soon

any other info on bonk~ besides the PD docs? cause i'm very confused right now. some info on fiddle would be nice too

ok now your patch is acting totaly different. it doesnt randomise anything anymore. plays the loop straight through. very weird.

[bonk~] is less sensitive to input level changes than most beat detectors, but still, the level you give it makes a difference to which beats get detected or not.

There is a link to some more docs in the help page for bonk.

cool obi. gonna take another look(cant believe i didnt see that, but then again that text is so freaking small with my resolution that sometimes i just want to read the help docs and get it over with

http://www.crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/

this one?

didnt find anything there...

just a though, but maybe you'll get better bonk detection if you run the signal through [compressor~] first.

tried running compressor in PD to see if there are any help docs. couldnt load it. will have to look for it online

attaching the help file to this reply...it's pretty minimal

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/help-compressor~.pd

i dont have the object in pd is what i mean
compressor~
... couldn't create

aaarh, you're not on windows are you?

if not, you can get [compressor~] here: http://ydegoyon.free.fr/software.html

if so, there might be another one???