Is there a reason that I am missing that would explain why my [menubar 0< message to [gemwin] will sometimes work and sometimes not? It seems like, with no changes to the patch, about half the time I open it there's a menubar in the window (fullscreen 1) and half the time there's not. When I use fullscreen 2 and use my second monitor I have no troubles.

Also, sometimes (not every time) when I create a fullscreen 1 gem window the command + tab trick won't work and I can't get back to the Pd extended window to destroy the window as I have also turned off the cursor.

Patch is attached with the loadbang removed so you can see the code more easily.

Many thanks!

Dan

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/witness_no_loadbang.pd

use [gemkeyboard] for your destroy key together with [key].
Note that it has different key numbers in your case: 40

mvh

Oooh, that's a good one. Thanks!

Any ideas on the menubar problem? An additional note, it is the PD-extended menu bar at the top of the gem window, not the simpler PD menubar that I would expect.

Thanks again for the tip Pulsed.; I used 53 (esc key) so that it would be easy to remember what to press while the gemwin is open. I determined the key number by attaching an atom (number box) to the output of [gemkeyboard] to tell me what number matched what key. Question; why are they different from the regular ascii numbers?

Dan

...maybe search the pdlist archives

http://lists.puredata.info/search/Pd-list?query=fullscreen&max=20&result=normal&sort=score

mvh

I added [border 0< in addition to [menubar 0< and it seems to be working as intended. Thanks!

Dan