hi,
if i open a patch and subpatches i have made i always have to scroll up a big amount to see things.
is there a way to avoid that? it doesn't happen not in all subpatch windows.
y

I have the same problem with some patches.

Pd will let you scroll past the upper and left bounds, and it can be easy to do on accident without noticing, especially with a trackpad. To fix this, try setting turning on the GOP in the window and setting the margins to 0. This will show you where the top-left corner is, so you can drag everything in.

what is GOP?

GOP = graph on parent. When you right click in a subpatch (or an abstraction) you can turn this feature on or off. It makes that on a higher level you can display controls from the subpatch / abstraction without all the code/wiring.

ok
thanks
i got a little step further