I'm using the [gate] object and it's IMPOSSIBLE to distinguish individual outlets because they're bunched so close together, anything above [gate 4] and they just don't fit, any way to make them larger????

add dashes:

[gate 4 - - - - -]

Is that what you mean?

Yeah, but it doesn't build if I add dashes.

"
error: Bad arguments for message 'gate' to object 'objectmaker'
gate 4 -----
... couldn't create
"

add zeros instead. gate 10 0 0 0 0 0 0

that will work.

Thanks alot This ought to be documented somewhere.... unless I missed it. Either way, thanks !

edit: Just another question: is there a [round] object? [Round] doesn't work, maybe a different name or an external?

i think the reason why the cyclone objects (of which [gate] is a part) aren't properly documented is that people are generally encouraged not to use them. they are really intended as a way of converting max patches to pd, and in my opinion, should not really be used in pd patching.

[gate], for example, does not follow general pd protocol, because the left inlet is used to set a value, and the right inlet forces output. in most pd objcets, the opposite is the case. the left inlet is 'hot' and right inlet(s) are cold.

not saying anything really bad will happen if you use cyclone objects, but if possible i think it's better to code with native pd objects..even if that means stringing a few more objects together to do what you want.

for rounding, use:

[- 0.5]
|
[int]

edit: oopssss

ooops. [+ 0.5]

Ok, thats a very simple solution oops...