Pd-vanilla appears in synaptic package manager but not pd-extended.

The book i'm learning from lists objects like:

output~

or

inv

Which don't work in Pd-vanilla.

How can I download pd-extended on Linux Mint?

@pharaohtut22 There are instructions here....... http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian ...... about half way down the page.
If you don't succeed you could install vanilla and use Deken........ it is in the Pd menu under help / find externals..... to get most of the externals. There would maybe be things missing, but often they are just abstractions and someone will upload them for you if you make a list of what you need and ask for them on this forum.
Here are your two objects..... here.zip
They are both abstractions..... so will run in any flavour of Pd.
David.

@whale-av I have read http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian but all I get is this:

sudo apt-get install pd-extended
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Package pd-extended is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

Can some one help?

As for the Deken download:

Commencing downloading of:
http://puredata.info/downloads/deken/releases/0.4.1/deken-plugin-v0.4.1--externals.zip
Into /home/computer/pd-externals...
= 44%
= 89%
= 100%
Successfully unzipped deken-plugin-v0.4.1--externals.zip into /home/computer/pd-externals.

But then in the Pd window I get:

priority 6 scheduling failed; running at normal priority
GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia
GEM: ver: 0.93.3 
GEM: compiled: Nov 11 2015
GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig
GEM: Authors :  Mark Danks (original version)
GEM:        Chris Clepper
GEM:        Cyrille Henry
GEM:        IOhannes m zmoelnig
GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, James Tittle, Hans-Christoph Steiner, et al.
GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it:
GEM:    homepage http://gem.iem.at/
GEM:    bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/
GEM:    mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/
GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: SSE2 MMX 
GEM: using SSE2 optimization
'deken-plugin.tcl' already loaded, ignoring: '/usr/lib/pd/extra/deken-plugin/deken-plugin.tcl'
 output~
... couldn't create
 inv
... couldn't create

And I downloaded your two objects but where do I put them?
It would be better to install the whole libraries than just insert one or two at a time.

Thanks for any help.

@pharaohtut22 I am not a Linux user, but it looks like it has started Vanilla.
Now that you have the Deken PlugIn you can go and look for the external libraries using Help / Find externals again.
Click the "Find All" button.
You will probably need at least......
zexy
cyclone
comport
iemlib
mrpeach
list-abs

Make sure you chose the right ones...... 32bit if you have 32bit Pd...... 64bit otherwise.
They will all be added to the Pd/extra folder.
Anything that is put in the extra folder will be found by Pd as it starts, so you can simply add those 2 files to the extra folder.

If other objects are missing as you work then post again and someone will tell you which library you will need.
Or if you have plenty of storage then install them all when you have some spare time.
There could still be something missing.
Often someone has made an abstraction to do the same thing...... if you are lucky.....
David.

@whale-av Thanks thats great.

Will install those libraries tomorrow and let you know.

Are there and other libraries that I should install?

Especially concidering I am hoping to learn 3D graphics and video/multimedia for live performance.

@pharaohtut22 GEM is the graphics external library and it looks as though you have it already.
Impossible to say which other libraries you might need.......
If you want to do multimedia stuff then download and read this........ https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12033/multimedia-programming-with-pure-data
It will tell you just about all you need to know.
And download this..... https://puredata.info/downloads/extended-view-toolkit..... which contains some serious tools built by some of the best in the field.
You can try the "Ofelia" library too, if it is available through Deken.
It might have a steeper learning curve than GEM...... but looks pretty useful.
David.

Interesting! How do I start the Deken-plugin?

@Nobody You probably already have it in your Pd Vanilla install, and it finds externals when you open "Help" in the Pd top menubar and then "Find Externals" and then either you type in a search word or you click the "Find All" Button.

I don't see the option "Find Externals" in the Help-menu...

I have Pd Vanilla 0.45.4. That is the version in the repositories of Linux Mint. Maybe I should update, but how?

@Nobody you'll need to compile it from the source. Download the source msp.ucsd.edu/Software/pd-0.49-0.src.tar.gz, read the INSTALL.txt and follow the instructions. It's not too complicated.

@solipp said:

@Nobody you'll need to compile it from the source. Download the source msp.ucsd.edu/Software/pd-0.49-0.src.tar.gz, read the INSTALL.txt and follow the instructions. It's not too complicated.

I tried it following the INSTALL.txt but it already went wrong at the very first command. I will open another topic especially about compiling Pd Vanilla from source on Linux Mint.

@whale-av Thank you that is so helpful.

I downloaded:

https://puredata.info/downloads/extended-view-toolkit.

Where do I copy and paste the extracted zip files into?

Is it the "extra" folder?

Where exacty is the "extra" folder?

Many thanks again for all help.

@pharaohtut22 The extra folder is at Pd/extra.
Usually every folder in the extra folder is "seen" by Pd, but if it is not then go to the top menu of Pd terminal, either File or Edit (sometimes different in different versions) Preferences >> Path.
Put the path to the folder in there.
Any folder anywhere can be found once it is in that list...... and probably sub-folders too.
David.

Thanks.

Just for reference the extra folder path is:

/usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem

Apologies for any delay getting back to you.

I downloaded about half the externals from the "find externals" page.

Also I changed the prefferences for the

"install extras to directory"

to:

home/computer/pd-externals

And I downloaded your two objects:

output~

inv

but it won't let me copy ad paste them into the home/computer/pd-externals folder, saying:

Extraction not performed

You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder “extra”

How come i have downloaded all these externals and it still doesn't recognise "inv" or "output~"

Any help much apprieciated.

@pharaohtut22 Hello again.
You might need to unzip the two objects elsewhere, and then copy them to the extra folder. But you might need root permission even to do that.
I just have a folder on my desktop with any abstractions that I will be re-using. It has its path set in Pd preferences....... "search path for objects.... etc.".
Those two objects will work anywhere they are found by Pd..
If nothing else works then as a last resort copy them into the same folder as your patch.
David.