Hi all,

since installing Pd 0.48 I've noticed that old patches created with Pd 0.47 show up in a bigger font, it says size 12 but it's bigger than when they were created. If I create a new patch now it defaults to font size 10, which is similar to what was going on in 0.47. I don't know whether the size 12 font of the old Pd was smaller, or is my patches got somehow converted to a different font size.

Anyone else having this issue?

I spend a lot of time cleaning up my patches so they are easier to read and now everything is messed up and it would take forever to reformat everything.

Thanks a lot in advance.

@weightless Yes, even in Vanilla for windows..... duh?
I added "-font-size 10" to my shortcut to Vanilla, and could probably have added it to the "edit startup prefs" panel....... and now all patches seem (I had forgotten about the problem) to open with my preferred font size...... even downloads.
David.

@whale-av Thanks for the tip, I didn't think about adding a startup flag for it. Do you know how I should type it? I tried -font-size 10 but it doesn't work.

@weightless I have it as -font-size 10 with no spaces in -font-size and a space before the 10.
But I also specify the font and maybe that is necessary..... -font-face "Consolas" (with the quote marks).

-font-size 10 -font-face "Consolas"

Consolas might not be the right font for a Mac?
But maybe font size 10 is not available for the font that Pd is using on a Mac?
Too many questions as I am on windows.
David.

There has been a lot of discussion about this on the list. A recent TCL update has changed the font sizing, and the regular startup flags don't help. There may be a solution to this problem in 0.48.1, but for now, we're stuck with it.

Thanks both, I did try the startup flags to no avail so let's wait for the new release and hope it gets fixed then.

Hi, I had a similar (but not the same) font-sizing issue related not to the version of Pd, but the version of linux I was using. Not sure if it will help, but the problem along with the workaround solution I found is described in this thread:

https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/10915/font-issue-with-new-linux-distros

BTW -- there was some clarification on the Pd list as far as exactly how those font startup flags are supposed to work. The -font-size flag is different than the -font-face and -font-weight flags in that while the latter two flags will affect all patches opened after Pd starts, the -font-size flag will only affect the default font size applied to newly created patches. Supposedly this is because the font size is the only parameter out of the three that is actually stored in the patch. Personally I still find it to be a glaring inconsistency, especially since this is not explicitly stated in the help file. Nonetheless, this is how it's supposed to work.

Keep in mind that specifying font face or weight will also affect the sizing and spacing so if you specify either of those two variables along with -font-size it may appear that -font-size is having an effect on previously created patches when it is actually the other variables causing the change.

Hi I'm on Debian and it seems a zoom problem to me more than a font size one... I just press Ctrl- and I see the patches as they were, so it's like they automatically start with a zoom in command (ctrl+)...

@alistair_blunt that's what it looks like to me too, in fact patches created with font size 10 are kept at size 10, but they look bigger and the object's alignment is messed up. it looks like zooming out would solve it but pd is already at the minimum zoom.
I'm on mac by the way.

Miller just posted to the mailing list:

"I'm just about to release 0.48-1 test 1 - I hope that helps with the font size
problems."