Hi, maybe I'm missing something but how do I save presets and/or just keep the adjusted controls in a patch for later use ? I know AUTOMATONISM has a preset saving system but I thought it was unique to the way that patch works. So, I need to be able to save tweaked controls in a way that's more advanced than taking a screenshot.

@Michael-Z-Freeman If you are using a gui...... most gui's........ the ones in the second part of the "put" list.......
hslider
vslider
hradio
vradio
toggle
number2
Can store their value when you save the patch.
Right-click.... properties... for the object..... and where it says "no init" change it to "init"
Put all the values and save the patch.
It is not useful for abstractions..... when they are opened again they will all have the same values..... for that you need to write and recall values in a text file....... see [text] in vanilla and ...... [textfile] in vanilla.
David.

Thanks . I'm using this project: https://github.com/angelfaraldo/pd-grainders
I did a little test as none of the objects have "init" on them. Adding a new object does create the init part for the object. In the ",pd" code itself this is represented by a 1/0 toggle on the end of an object string. I don't really want to go through these numerous objects adding the "1" to every single one. First I thought the PD GUI might be able to do some kind off mass edit; group select everything and right click, but no, Only gives a single object. I could edit the code with a Regular Expression but that's always a last resort for me. Can't just do a search & replace either ... (code snippet)

#X floatatom 375 125 3 0 50 0 - #0-attackDev_p #0-attackDev, f 3;
#X obj 363 125 bng 8 250 50 0 \$0-attackDev_l nothing empty 17 7 0
10 -228856 -1 -1;
#X obj 323 125 bng 8 250 50 0 \$0-attackMean_l nothing empty 17 7 0
10 -228856 -1 -1;
#X floatatom 424 124 3 1 99 0 - #0-releaseMean_p #0-releaseMean, f
3;
#X floatatom 465 125 3 0 50 0 - #0-releaseDev_p #0-releaseDev, f 3
;
#X obj 453 125 bng 8 250 50 0 \$0-releaseDev_l nothing empty 17 7 0
10 -228856 -1 -1;
#X obj 413 125 bng 8 250 50 0 \$0-releaseMean_l nothing empty 17 7

I can't even see a PD code editor out there. Even PS Pad has no syntax file