Dear friends and audiomagicians, i hope you will advise me,

my main patch creates with a counter (k) abtractions with k as argument inside a subpatch via [obj x y objname k] -> [s pd-sub], whereas inside these abstractions a file (k.wav) will be attached, so that someone can click on an abtraction inside pd-sub and record to a file.

When i manually create these abstractions (or touch the automated ones resp. change it without changing) everything's fine, but when i create them via the method above, they seem somehow not yet activated.

Is there a trick and why is that?

PS. my aspiration was to create a subpatch where someone can easily record samples with these abstractions and play them (each with some nice candy from the abstraction) independently via keyboard resp. sort of yet-another-sequencer

It's probably a loadbang thing. Loadbangs don't go off when an abstraction is dynamically created. To solve this, you can send the message "loadbang" to the canvas right after it is created, or even in the same message, ie.

[obj 100 100 my-obj, loadbang(

Edit: Note that this will re-start every open [loadbang] (I think). If this is a problem, protect them with a spigot that turns itself off after one shot.

SOLVED!! :D
Ha ha, thank you so much LiamG, quite glorious, much appreciated; i would never had thought of that resp. did not even realize i could do such (with loadbang).
i just do not quite understand how it works resp. why especially doesn't "bang" instead of "loadbang" work..?

can you further name me some resources for learning such details? i'm further still learning on c and externals and it'll still take a while before coding some real useful stuff i want to share.

another thing: i stalked some of your posts and found Pd-0.47.1 which answered my unmentioned question of projects activeness and i'm pretty hilarious now to have found it, it'll give creativity a whole new drift.. ('cause i did not get all my projects in pd-external to work so i sticked to vanilla meanwhile missing some externs e.g. mousestate).

however, thanks again and have a good workmanship.

PS apropos, what are you using pd for resp. what are your interests regarding acustics?

another question in this context which i could not find any post of:
is there any full list or documentation on which messages and its options can be send in order to create things inside subpatches?

thanks kindly in advance for any advice.

@noise Hello there...... strangely not found in the online doc for "pd messages" but here........ https://puredata.info/docs/developer/PdFileFormat
Here is more info about all internal messages..... but less specification of the formats........ https://puredata.info/community/pdwiki/PdInternalMessages

Here are a few from the "extended" help file with a couple added........
52.send_messages_to_pd.pd
David.

haha, awesome whale-av!! i instantaneously bookmarked that link; you answered also my other questions.. resp. for further questions i'll visit https://puredata.info first..
but it seems [tgl) is not yet implemented and [bng) works without any options so far; so i may either change the file directly (which i not have yet tried out or dig deep into externals to implement it somehow..?)
however, thanks and deeply happy, sonificatious, alegorious audiogations (don't bother i made up the last one )

@noise........ toggle and bang can be created.....but as objects.... and you can set some of their properties (as for any objects that "have" properties) as you will see in the first link of my previous post...........
But some properties don't seem to be addressed correctly. However, as you can set the "receive" address, you can change those properties by sending the object itself messages after you have created it (see bang or toggle "help" and then open [pd edit] within).
BUT...... that only works after the patch containing those objects has been saved and re-opened.

As a consolation.......... here are some clues for getting $0 into the objects if you need to......
You can replace "click-me................-below" with any symbol you wish........ it just makes the "$ <space> 0" a "list"......... in fact [list $ 0( is more usual.
David.