nevermind....i guess a message-created object needs to be followed by a loadbang message to trigger it - not sure i understand why but makes sense that it worked

thank you all for the excellent information

everything is working well except my loadbang doesn't seem to fire when my abstraction is created from a message box connected to a s pd-window.pd, so unless i manually create the abstraction object in the pd window, i'm not getting the loadbang-$x output i need.

i.e., if i open the message-created abstraction and bang the test bang i have loadbang routed through, i get my output. if i put an object and create my abstraction that way i get my output without having to do anything else (like i expect, and want it to be).

what gives? is there something fundamental that i'm missing about message created abstractions or obj messages? there are no $x's in the abstraction name/argument list, so a missing slash in my obj creation message can't be the problem, right?

the patch i'm working on will be running on a library in objective c (http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/Libpd) so i'm not sure if i will have the same problem when the abstraction is called from a code-sent message, but i can't imagine why it would behave any differently than in the pd window environment.

hopefully this is just something i'm overlooking.....?

any feedback is most welcome