it was added in the last available release (RC1`4, from september./2025), but plugdata never included it in a stable release. Currently, nightly carries the current master state of RC15

@ddw_music said:

Come to think of it... why does else/sfz~ truncate note numbers? You're not bound by the limits of the MIDI protocol; why not fully support fractional note numbers?

that is a good request. Open an issue?

cool, I thought you wanted particular scales, like 8th tones, which is the first example in here

see else/width~ and else/spread~ for stereo spreading

else/sfz~ has support for mictrotones

I didn't look at that patch, all I am saying is that I think it's important to have audio signals triggering the object. If you just want to use MIDI, you don;t really need it, but my library is fully sample rate accurate, like a modular environment. I wouldn't know how to do that with Vanilla, seems impossible or dreadfully hard/crazy with all my features.

The [slop~] object is sample rate accurate though.

@JuanMadrid said:

And you are right, to develope the ADSR with vline was complicated foir me. I spent several hours,

and for me it's important that the gate value is an audio signal and that simply can't be done with [vline~]. A proper envelope should also be able to be retrigerred while the gate is on. When I added yet even more features like I did, it simply gets impossible to be done with Vanilla.

it was historically immediate release by default, but in that particular version I was trying to accommodate more features and kinda screwed up... and now it'll be back immediate release with yet more features, so I was able to find a way to accommodate things.

It's hard to add features without breaking things.

By the way. I don't think [vline~] can be considered an envelope generator at all... you can do it, but it's a lot of hassle and it's only linear and very limited. For you to be able to deal with exponential curves and all the things I provide in my envelope generator is just virtually impossible with vanilla.

of course [else/adsr~] is much more powerful and offers more exponential curves. I find the one pole filter solution not that great, but I haven't bothered on trying to implement something like that in Vanilla

Note that the new stuff I pointed above are already part of the experimental/nightly builds of PlugData.

As for designing envelopes, I have the "Live Electronics Tutorial", an extensive tutorial and all things ELSE and Pd, which is also distributed as part of the PlugData documentation. I have an example on how to build exponential envelopes over there, see

here's a screenshot you'll find in chapter 17

I also have added something like this to the help file of [slop~]