hi, i'm opening an alternative therapies workplace, and i thought instead of usig ambient music albums, or nature sounds, etc, using Pd for background for my activities. But im not interested and i think in the end im not capable of learning how to program it, so I'm looking for already made patches of pretty complete background music, as something that can play for an hour without sounding like a windchimes robot, for use while i'm doing the thing. Is there any precedent for this? Like a "grab anything from THAT place and use it at wll"? Or should i ask speccific programmers of Pd patches that i like if can i use them? in that case, how can i find the major publishing place of patches, and which is the best way to test them? thx
BTW also would be interested in motion graphics patches... everything ambient (chill, relax, weditative, as you call it).

Hello, recently I was rtequired to work at home, and I have an 8 output channel sound card, so I figured... why not work in the middle of the jungle, or the beach, instead of in my room?
do you get the idea?
I want to position 8 speakers and make a surround mix of a sound ambient, for example birds coming from one speaker, the river flowing from another, etc... I think the best way to go is with recorded nature samples (but maybe one day I want to be in mars, who knows, so maybe synthetic sounds might be an added feature...), and some randomness (volume, occurrence, different river intensityies, etc.) would be great, since hearing the same sounds over and over is... let's say boring.
Is this too difficult to do? I'm a newbie at programming, the further I went is CSS... but I'm willing to give it a try.

1st request: criticism? ideas?
2nd request: Can anybody point me in a good direction to start making this?
3rd request: Resources?

THANKS!!!

PS: it can get even more ambitious and cooler, making sounds "move" trough the speakers, like a bird sounds form my right and later it sounds from my left, or the river is multichannel so it's more inmersing, and stuff in the likes of that. And even more cool: give it "moods", like the wind starts tio blow harder, and birds start to make more noises, stuff like that occurs to me.

PSS: IS THERE ALREADY SOMEONE WORKING ON THIS OR AN ALREADY EXISTING PATCH?

PSSS: I noticed a strong tendence towards art and experimentation in the patches I saw here. Nature is also art, but the intention here is not to play, entertain, amaze... its more like having a plant in tyour living room, it does nothing, yet it makes you more comfy.

Greets,
Mario, from Argentina (that's why my enlish is so bad-confusing :P)

Hello, I´m Mario, from Argentina. I accidentally bumped into PD while surfing the web for procedural music.
The thing is, I´m working on a 3D project. Similar to First Person Shooting, but without the shooting. I saw a video in youtube that shows a generative procedural music patch in PD

and it impressed me.
The thing I need is background music that changes with time, and that is also affected by the actions of the user. For example, if the user starts running a lot, the music gets faster... if the user starts a social activity with a character, a new layer of music is added, or the music changes scale, etc.... or a new character arrives and the music changes... etc.
I want to know if there is a simple protocol by which the game can communicate with PD, so the music fits with the action taking place. Also, it would be great that there is a way in which PD can send information TO the game (such as BPM of the music, occurrence of a specific musical passage, etc)

I need insight into how much work is it to make a complex generative music patch with the carachteristics mentioned above (and if it´s possible). It should have a decent aesthetic and cosmetic level, by this I mean it should be able to play decent drumset samples (even better, virtual sinthesizers) for example, and it should include musical variations or arrangements, such as solos, musical structure such as verse, chorus, verse passages. For instance, I want to make it play a blues-sort-of music... Can I? Is PD for me or is there another tool thas is?

Another thing to consider: when it´s finished, the program will be running continously for about 14 to 15 hours. Are there any precedents of PD running a complex patch that long without problems or chrashes?

I will design the carachteristics of the (should I say "program"?) system, but I will most likely hire someone to do the programming, and I want to know which is the likeliness to have a good result using PD, and how much will it cost me (time and money).

I would REALLY appreciate some insight on this, since its a serious project. And also I´m open to offerings for doing the job, but I must mention that the project is at an inicial stage and some changes in the ideas may occur, and the budget is not yet defined.

Thanks for reading,
greets,

Mario

Thanks you're very helpful and very kind. I already downloaded the foss PDF and a couple other books. I'll print them and swallow them +

hey that's the same book I found! great!

@BerengerRecoules said:

Of course you want some theory first follow the links :

http://www.pd-tutorial.com/english/index.html

http://en.flossmanuals.net/pure-data/

excuse me is there a pdf or a way to print this to make it more readable?

THANKS!
PEACE!

Thanks a bunch!

I dont mean to be rude, but if i want to learn to read, i want to learn the letters first. Do you get what I mean?
Maybe I´m not into the programers' code of communication, in fact, an open scource'sw software wiki is still ioncromprehensible to me after some years. I need to know something like an "introduction" and an "index" (talking as if we were to read a manual), in a didactive sense, not a pragmatic sense.
No offense, I just am not into the programmers's groove, but maybe you can point me to these things.
Thanks!
Peace!

The thing is... I´m not a programmer, I can´t even start to think in programming, and I can't find a "Where to start" link... maybe that's all i need.

PS: i want to make it from scratch, so I can really contribute.