Hi helpful PD users,

I'm relatively new to PD, trying to learn. This is really discouraging, and taking away a lot of time from doing stuff like making music! So help is appreciated.

When I start up PD in verbose mode, this is what I see. Most GEM abstractions work.

input channels = 2, output channels = 2
Finished loading buttonbar-plugin.tcl
Finished loading buttonbar-plugin.tcl
input channels = 2, output channels = 2
1 devices in, 1 devices out
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\startup\\0.libdir.m_i386 and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\startup\\0.libdir.dll and succeeded
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\startup\\1.list.m_i386 and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\startup\\1.list.dll and succeeded
tried .\\extra.m_i386 and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Common Files\\Pd\\extra.m_i386 and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Common Files\\Pd\\extra.m_i386 and failed
tried C:\\Users\\John\\Application Data\\Pd\\extra.m_i386 and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\extra.m_i386 and failed
tried .\\extra.dll and failed

...it goes on and on (can't fit it all)...

tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\cxc\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\iemlib\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\list-abs\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\mapping\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\markex\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\maxlib\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\mjlib\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\motex\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\oscx\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\pddp\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\pdogg\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\pmpd\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\sigpack\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\smlib\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\unauthorized\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\pan\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\hcs\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\jmmmp\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\ext13\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\ggee\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\ekext\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\flatgui\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\chaos\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Common Files\\Pd\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Users\\John\\Application Data\\Pd\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed
tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\mtl\\mtl.tcl and failed

In the EDIT-->PREFERENCES-->SEARCH PATH area, I've added MTL, and it can't find that either.

Tried double-clicking on the registry file in /BIN, but that didn't seem to do anything. There's also a PD-EXTENDED.BAT file in the home directory that looks meant to set up paths, but that doesn't do much, either.

There's three separate registry files for PD, one in CURRENT_USER, one in LOCAL_MACHINE, and one in USERS. They all have a list of libraries to load, but they don't seem to be doing anything.

I want all the libraries that come with extended, and any additions such as MTL to load, dammit! This has been vexing me for hours/days! Help!

Don't bother adding paths in 0.43. Saving paths and loading on startup has been disabled in favor of loading libraries within the patch itself using [import], [declare], or [path]. It makes patches a bit more portable since you can see what libraries it needs.

Make sure the library is in one of the paths given here:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files

You can double check what the exact path is by opening the command line and typing:

echo %AppData%

From your post, though, it looks like C:\Users\John\Application Data\Pd is where you should put it. Then you can just do something like [path mtl] to add the mtl library path. Or you can instantiate objects with an mtl namespace, e.g. [mtl/objectname].

Thanks for your quick response!

I couldn't get 0.43.1 or .4 to work no matter what I tried. I looked at the echo command, but it just said it was C:\users\John\AppData\Roaming

There was no folder for PD nor file.

So I'm going back to 0.42 for now, which works without problems. Loaded all libraries and after adding MTL to path and startup that works too. Already miss the triple-click and button bar plugins, but I'll be okay. Don't want to keep monkeying around with it so I guess I'll wait for the kinks to get fixed.

There's no Pd folder there because it isn't created by default. Just add it. If you do it in the file browser, you'll have to show hidden files to find it the AppData/Roaming folder.

There's no kinks. It works fine. It's just a hassle the first time you do it.