Hi, I want to compare the output of wmangle to "hidden 1" to determine if a particular window is hidden.

So, if queried, wmangle will send a message "hidden 1" or "hidden 0", depending on whether the window in question (already specified to wmangle) is hidden or not, and I just want to generate a bang in the first case only. I spent some several hours trying to do this seemingly simple task but could not find a way. I tried various combination of route, trigger, strcmp, and some other ideas, but nothing seems to work. I know this is a newbie question, but any suggestions welcome.

Hi,
I don't have [wmangle] installed, so I couldn't try it. This is what's working for me:

[hidden 0( [hidden 1(
| |
| /
| /
[route hidden]
|
[sel 1]
|
[o] <- bang

I hope that helps.

Hi, I tried something like this, but will try again. BTW, where is there a reference explaining the formatting for patches in the forums? i.e. what does [xyz( mean?

[blah( ... message box
[metro] ... object
| ... wire
/ ... wire
\ ... wire

Maybe I forgot to mention something, but that's what people here are using the most for describing their patches.

As per some corollary of Murphy's law, trying it again after someone else suggested it seemed to now work. Thanks.

I did notice that wmangle outputted an extra space (?) at the end of the output message, which BTW you wouldn't notice by looking at the console print message. It seems that a message that looked like one element was actually two. I confirmed using the "zl len" object. Hmm....

since there is no help file for [zl len], will you please explain in short what the object is doing? And from which library it is coming from. Thank you.

[zl] is from cyclone. In Max, [zl] is the object that does list processing, and the type of processing is determined by the argument. [zl len] does the same thing as

.

Are you using Pd-extended? I'm getting a helpfile for it here.

yes, pd-extended, 0.42.5 (winXP)

Now I tried to add cyclone and maxmode folders to my path list, but help file didn't show up despite the fact that help file is in the cyclone folder and I can open it as a patch. What I'm doing wrong?