I have a patch where I want to use a [#many tgl 4 4] to send a connecting state to the [matrix~] object
but the list coming out of the [pack] object (see patch) contains a 'list' symbol on the beginning of the list (I know this is different than how Max/MSP behaves) and want to get rid of it so the matrix object recognizes the list
sorry but not sure how to deal with this in Pd

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/matrix_problem1.pd

maybe

will work.

Simon

thanks a million!!

did the trick!