Has anyone seen a puredata implementation of Andrew Simper's dynamic smoothing algorithm?
https://cytomic.com/files/dsp/DynamicSmoothing.pdf
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dynamic smoothing, Andrew Simper style?
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@ben.wes awesome
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... and probably the last update on this for the time being (unless people find errors, of course):
the latest changes add multichannel support to the external (it might be nice to allow different base frequencies and different sensitivities for different channels - but i'll skip that for now).
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@ben.wes ah, multichannel support - just what I need
Sorry, I am still very new to plugdata, and I get error messages with
dynsmoth-abs-efficient~ -mc 32
bad arguments for message 'f' to object 'objectmaker'Where exactly do I place your dynsmooth~ folder (downloaded from releases)? In Abstraction and Externals? Thanks a LOT!
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@trummerschlunk said:
Sorry, I am still very new to plugdata, and I get error messages with dynsmoth-abs-efficient~ -mc 32
bad arguments for message 'f' to object 'objectmaker'ah, wait ... you don't need to do anything for multichannel support - it just takes multichannel signals as input and outputs the smoothed multichannel signal. but i only added that for the external (dynsmooth~) - for the abstractions, it would also be simple, i think - but i didn't attempt yet. would need to change the feedback to multichannel.
Where exactly do I place your dynsmooth~ folder (downloaded from releases)? In Abstraction and Externals? Thanks a LOT!
in any folder that pd knows. ... but externals would be fine, sure! and pd will automatically search in the
dynsmooth~
folder for the external with the same name (for the abstractions, you'd need to usedynsmooth~/dynsmooth-abs~
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Understood. I still can't load the external somehow. Maybe because I am on a arm/silicon Mac?
The abstractions are loading.Would dynsmooth~ then be the accurate or the efficient version?
Would it run in 'compiled mode' in plugdata?
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@trummerschlunk said:
[...] Maybe because I am on a arm/silicon Mac?
the builds include binaries for both, silicon and intel Macs (on M2 here myself - so that's even the only build that's actually tested ).
Would dynsmooth~ then be the accurate or the efficient version?
dynsmooth~
initializes the accurate version. if you createdynsmooth~ -e
, it'll use the efficient algorithm. also, you can initialize base frequency and sensitivity with creation args like this:dynsmooth~ -e 100 0.01
for example.Would it run in 'compiled mode' in plugdata?
compiled mode only supports the object that are known by the heavy compiler:
https://github.com/Wasted-Audio/hvcc/blob/develop/docs/09.supported_vanilla_objects.md... unfortunately,
block~
(for the 1-sample feedback) is not supported - so i'm afraid that it's not an option to use the abstractions in that mode. -
ah - and i forgot to mention in the previous response: i made another little update to the abstractions so that you can set the channel count via a
channels <count>
message:unfortunately, it's necessary to set the count of send~ objects manually that way.
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@ben.wes said:
the builds include binaries for both, silicon and intel Macs (on M2 here myself - so that's even the only build that's actually tested ).
I accidentally installed the wrong (pd64) version. Now, pd32 dynsmooth~ external works perfectly. Also multichannel
... unfortunately,
block~
(for the 1-sample feedback) is not supported - so i'm afraid that it's not an option to use the abstractions in that mode.hm, too bad. Same is true for the external, I guess?
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@trummerschlunk said:
hm, too bad. Same is true for the external, I guess?
yep. vanilla patches are the only option for that ... but when it comes to 1-sample feedback without
block~ 1
, the only options are the filter objects (rpole~
etc.). i'm honestly not completely sure if this dynamic smoothing here could be achieved in some other way (like obtaining x[n-1] viarzero_rev~ 0
) - but i don't think so.