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<p><a href="http://dafx04.na.infn.it/WebProc/Proc/P_061.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://dafx04.na.infn.it/WebProc/Proc/P_061.pdf</a></p>
<p>code is here if anyone's interested:</p>
<p>svn checkout <a href="https://code.goto10.org/svn/maximus/2009/muug/" rel="nofollow">https://code.goto10.org/svn/maximus/2009/muug/</a></p>
<p>I called it muug~ to distinguish from the moog~ in ggee, which uses a simpler algorithm.</p>
<p>Not very optimized (at least so far) - expect it to use loads of cpu juice for each object. And a bug: it only works correctly at 44100 sample rate inside a 4x upsampled subpatch, see the help patch for an example.</p>
]]></description><link>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2026 04:20:13 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:39:59 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muug~ nonlinear moog ladder filter on Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:39:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I implemented the filter algorithm described in this paper:</p>
<p><a href="http://dafx04.na.infn.it/WebProc/Proc/P_061.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://dafx04.na.infn.it/WebProc/Proc/P_061.pdf</a></p>
<p>code is here if anyone's interested:</p>
<p>svn checkout <a href="https://code.goto10.org/svn/maximus/2009/muug/" rel="nofollow">https://code.goto10.org/svn/maximus/2009/muug/</a></p>
<p>I called it muug~ to distinguish from the moog~ in ggee, which uses a simpler algorithm.</p>
<p>Not very optimized (at least so far) - expect it to use loads of cpu juice for each object. And a bug: it only works correctly at 44100 sample rate inside a 4x upsampled subpatch, see the help patch for an example.</p>
]]></description><link>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ClaudiusMaximus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:39:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muug~ nonlinear moog ladder filter on Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:22:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>just built with mingw on windows and it works and sounds great. only eats up about 37% of my proc. not bad. thanks!</p>
]]></description><link>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/2</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/2</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Count Binoculars]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:22:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muug~ nonlinear moog ladder filter on Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:38:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Great work Maximus, this filter sounds great! It even works at high Q values (q=10) the way it should. Good job in implementing Houvilainen's model.</p>
<p>I've noticed in the SVN that you've made a revision after this post. So you've optimized the tanh function and it no longer needs to be upsampler 4x, correct?</p>
<p>I've done an experiment to calculate the error of the tanh table using different table sizes (all multiples of <img class="emoji emoji-extended" src="http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji-extended/images/sunglasses.png" title="8)" alt="8)" /> and found that the ttanh function causes an error of about six orders of magnitude since it doesn't round to the nearest integer when calculating the index t (from the sample x). I then decided to try linear interpolation and got slightly better results. The difference between truncation and rounding is significant, the difference between rounding and interpolation is probably not. On my machine, muug's help ran at about 6.5% cpu using rounding, while with interpolation it ran at 8%.</p>
<p>Another thing, the table size should be SIZE+1, but the error caused by that is unmeasurable.</p>
<p>I'm uploading a modified version which allows you to change the default table size of 512 to some other size with a -DMUUG_TILDE_TABLE_SIZE=262144 compiler option. It also lets you change from rounding to linear interpolation with the compiler option -DMUUG_INTERPOLATE=1, the default is 0 (rounding). This version also gets the current sampling rate, it does not assume 44100. I've tested it at 96000 and 4800, works perfectly. Pi is now a literal constant instead of a variable (MUUG_PI). And finally I changed the calculations to double precision with no discernible performance loss.</p>
<p>I'm also including the results of my experiment. It basically ran a large quantity of numbers between -4 and 4 through the table look up tanh and compared it with the actual tanh.</p>
<p>cheers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/muug~-2010.zip" rel="nofollow">http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/muug~-2010.zip</a></p>
]]></description><link>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/3</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/3</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[saturno]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:38:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muug~ nonlinear moog ladder filter on Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:33:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Here's a very simple kick drum that uses muug~</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/muugkick~.zip" rel="nofollow">http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/muugkick~.zip</a></p>
]]></description><link>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/4</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/4</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[saturno]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:33:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muug~ nonlinear moog ladder filter on Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:33:29 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the interest! not sure about the current state of my SVN version of muug~; it's essentially an abandoned project/experiment, not enough time on my hands to update it / apply your additions... and there's still a bug in this forum software / setup that means I can't download attachments anyway...</p>
<p>so I suggest you set up a repository on <a href="http://gitorious.org" rel="nofollow">http://gitorious.org</a> or similar and take over this code (there are some tools to convert from svn to git preserving history, email me if you need help), then I can update my SVN version to tell people to get it from your repository instead.</p>
]]></description><link>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/5</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/5</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ClaudiusMaximus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:33:29 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muug~ nonlinear moog ladder filter on Sun, 04 Apr 2010 00:55:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Did as you said, though I had a hard time converting from SVN to GIT. Since you only performed two commits I just did it by hand, noting your commit dates.</p>
<p><a href="http://gitorious.org/muug/muug" rel="nofollow">http://gitorious.org/muug/muug</a>#</p>
<p>If we could get someone to compile a windows binary for us that would be great. Maybe Count Binoculars could do so. Tarball is here <a href="http://gitorious.org/muug/muug/archive-tarball/master" rel="nofollow">http://gitorious.org/muug/muug/archive-tarball/master</a></p>
<p>EDIT: grammar</p>
]]></description><link>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/6</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/6</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[saturno]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 00:55:42 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muug~ nonlinear moog ladder filter on Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:55:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Managed to get it compiled for windows using MinGW. So far there's a an OS X version (10.5 built with xcode 3.0) and windows 32 (WinXP built with MinGW).</p>
<p><a href="http://gitorious.org/muug/muug/archive-tarball/master" rel="nofollow">http://gitorious.org/muug/muug/archive-tarball/master</a></p>
]]></description><link>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/7</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/7</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[saturno]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:55:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muug~ nonlinear moog ladder filter on Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:02:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Made a minimoog using this external. Check it out<br />
<a href="http://puredata.hurleur.com/viewtopic.php?pid=17662" rel="nofollow">http://puredata.hurleur.com/viewtopic.php?pid=17662</a></p>
]]></description><link>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/8</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/8</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[saturno]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:02:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muug~ nonlinear moog ladder filter on Thu, 26 Oct 2017 20:27:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I know this is an old thread, but I just wanted to say that I found muug~ on Deken just now and holy crap this is a great filter!!! Thank you!!! <img class="emoji emoji-extended" src="http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji-extended/images/grinning.png" title=":)" alt=":)" /></p>
]]></description><link>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/9</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/9</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[arratik]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2017 20:27:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muug~ nonlinear moog ladder filter on Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:50:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow, this does sound good. Thanks for digging it up!</p>
]]></description><link>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/10</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/10</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LiamG]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:50:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muug~ nonlinear moog ladder filter on Thu, 05 Jul 2018 20:09:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>hey guys, what are the thoughts in comparing this with [bob~]?</p>
]]></description><link>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/11</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/11</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[porres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2018 20:09:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muug~ nonlinear moog ladder filter on Thu, 05 Jul 2018 20:16:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>and why not, also thoughts in comparison to gee/moog~</p>
]]></description><link>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/12</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/2588/muug-nonlinear-moog-ladder-filter/12</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[porres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2018 20:16:42 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>