Some objects not working

Reply to Some objects not working on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 02:47:45 GMT

raynovich — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 02:47:45 GMT

Hello all,
So, I had to get that new computer. Now I am transferring all my files and somethings are not working on the new computer. They might be in the zexy external.

Here are some that are not working:

s2l . . . what I want to do is count how many characters are in a symbol (word). So each character should be separated. It does not seem to be working any longer.

minmax
date
time

Any ideas? I would be very grateful.

Reply to Some objects not working on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 02:56:34 GMT

raynovich — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 02:56:34 GMT

OK, I seemed to get it working by declaring the libraries used and not relying on the Preferences. Is that common? Am I doing something wrong?

Reply to Some objects not working on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 03:39:14 GMT

raynovich — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 03:39:14 GMT

So, an update. I tried to delete zexy library and then re-upload it, but that does not seem to work.

Reply to Some objects not working on Sat, 18 Apr 2026 10:19:57 GMT

whale-av — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 10:19:57 GMT

@raynovich You are not doing anything wrong.
Some external libraries are individual binaries for each external, so putting the path in preferences allows Pd to find them by name as they are created in the patch.

But zexy and some others are a single binary containing all the externals. Only the help files are separate and can be found by name.
That means that the whole library needs to be loaded into memory as Pd starts..... and that is what happens using the -lib flag at startup.
The library can be loaded instead just for your patch using [declare].
That means that all the externals are available for Pd in exactly the same manner as all standard objects are available because those are part of the Pd binary itself.
David.

Reply to Some objects not working on Sun, 19 Apr 2026 19:55:41 GMT

raynovich — Sun, 19 Apr 2026 19:55:41 GMT

Thank you. I am grateful for your prompt responses.

So, I had a problem a few years back that you or someone else resolved. I am not sure why it has crept back in.

gain~ from the else library needs to be saved everytime I close the program. There was something I needed to do so that did not happen. I am sorry I forgot.

Also, oddly, most of my patches are taking a LONG TIME to close when I close the main window. I am not sure what happened. To give some background, my last computer is a 2018 mac and the patches close at reasonably quickly, now it seems like there is almost a freezing. I am now on a 2025 mac.

iemguts cannot seem to load. I believe I added the library. But when I reopen pd, the Pd window states: can't load library.

Reply to Some objects not working on Tue, 21 Apr 2026 19:18:19 GMT

raynovich — Tue, 21 Apr 2026 19:18:19 GMT

OK, so, I may have identified part of the problem, if not the root of the problem. I was using an older version of the else library. The new else's gain~ has a new set of objects that I believe takes a lot of CPU to run.

The original version was working. What is the best practice when something like this occurs?

The object that I think is creating the issue is: pd learn/forget

Do I make my own gain~ object?

Reply to Some objects not working on Wed, 22 Apr 2026 05:34:06 GMT

alexandros — Wed, 22 Apr 2026 05:34:06 GMT

gain is just a multiplication of a signal with some constant value in digital audio.

Reply to Some objects not working on Thu, 23 Apr 2026 21:53:59 GMT

raynovich — Thu, 23 Apr 2026 21:53:59 GMT

The newer version also has something tied to "remembering" and/or keystrokes thought too, which is the problem.

I took out the learn/forget object and it works like it used to.

Reply to Some objects not working on Tue, 26 May 2026 18:44:28 GMT

raynovich — Tue, 26 May 2026 18:44:28 GMT

Any help with iemguts? Do others have problems with that library too? renamed the library to iemguts_old, then downloaded it again. Still states it cannot be loaded.

But the objects seemed to work.

Reply to Some objects not working on Wed, 27 May 2026 05:38:06 GMT

alexandros — Wed, 27 May 2026 05:38:06 GMT

If I'm not mistaken, iemguts is a collection of objects and doesn't come as a signle binary, which means that you only need to set its path to Pd's search paths. If you have it in your externals directory, which in turn is in Pd's search paths, then you can load an object with the library name prepended, like this: [iemguts/oreceive].