Hi there,
I'm using the scala object by Else and the zl lookup object by cycleone

I send the list of frequency from the left outlet of scala into the right inletof zl look up. I then insert number between 0 -127 to the left inlet of zl look up. I'm expecting it to output the corresponding frequency from the scala list but nothing is output.
What I'm doing wrong?

Also - how can I monitor any info in a message object? same as you would insert to the right inlet in message object in max MSP - is there anything similar in pd ?

In max I would do something like this:
What is the equivalent in pd?

So I tried the else/scala help patch -- "print scale" produces a list of 13 numbers. This is pretty typical, for a 12-note chromatic scale + one more for the octave.

Then you are asking zl lookup to tell you what is the 60th number in a 13-number list. In most programming languages, you'd get an array out of bounds exception for this.

So you will have to split your MIDI note number into a chromatic degree 0-11 (degree = midinote % 12) and an octave (octave = midinote div 12 -- be sure to use integer division). Then the final frequency is pow(2, octave-5) * (zl-lookup degree).

hjh

@KMETE https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14060/reading-scl-files-micro-tuning-synth/9

Thanks! the m2s is very usefull!
no need for any calculation or the use of zl lookup.!

btw - how do you copying in pd the function of the right inlet (cold inlet) in MaxMSP message object? I just can't get it in pd, very frustrating!
same with connecting outlet of an object to multiple inlets of another object in one go. Anyway of doing so? could save me lots of time!

@KMETE I cannot find a reference to a cold inlet of a message object in Max....... only https://docs.cycling74.com/max7/refpages/message
If you can post a link that would be useful.

In Pd a list..... like 1 2 3.... is distributed to the inlets of most objects. You can see that in use when you send a message into [line]. Is that what you mean by "connecting outlet of an object to multiple inlets of another object in one go"?
If not then maybe you are looking for a shortcut method for patching....https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/13471/shortcut-replacing-wires
David.

@whale-av said:

https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/13471/shortcut-replacing-wires

Wow this link is so useful!!! thank you for sharing it ))

@whale-av said:

@KMETE I cannot find a reference to a cold inlet of a message object in Max....... only https://docs.cycling74.com/max7/refpages/message

This page says:

list
Arguments
input [list]
Each item in the list replaces the value of its corresponding $ argument, if such an argument exists, then sends out the contents of the message box.

In right inlet: Sets the contents of the message box without triggering output.

@KMETE I think you're looking for the 'set' prefix (this will work for simple lists -- it gets trickier if you need special characters like commas and dollars-es inside the box):

hjh

@KMETE Trigger also has some undocumented features to ease patching which are not in that link.
https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/13944/some-questions-regarding-abstraction-conventions/5

@KMETE I think you're looking for the 'set' prefix

Since pd vanilla version 52 there is that new list-atom-box in the put menu or at ctrl+4 .
Works for lists, symbols, floats ...

it gets trickier if you need special characters like commas and dollars-es inside the box

@ddw_music
Thanks that was vey helpful.
when I try to type a number inside a number box it is not working. The only way for changing the numbers is by clicking the mouse and scrolling. There is no wy to type into number boxes?

@KMETE said:

when I try to type a number inside a number box it is not working. The only way for changing the numbers is by clicking the mouse and scrolling. There is no wy to type into number boxes?

OK.

If you create a button or toggle, you might notice that:

• If you are not in edit mode, clicking on the object produces the output.
• If you are in edit mode, clicking on the object selects it but does not trigger output.
• If you are in edit mode, ctrl- clicking on the object produces output.

Number boxes behave the same way. Not in edit mode, you can click and type a number. In edit mode, ctrl-click allows you to type. I just confirmed that this is true in PlugData as well as the vanilla Pd GUI.

(On Mac, cmd- instead of ctrl-.)

In both interfaces, use ctrl-E to toggle between edit and performance modes. In PlugData, the + icon in the toolbar is dimmed when not editing (AFAICS this is the only way to know which mode you're in).

Edit edit... one minor interface goof in PlugData is that: performance mode, clicking a number box turns the arrowhead blue (so you know it's typeable). In edit mode, ctrl-click does not turn it blue but it's still typeable (I tried it, no problem).

hjh

@whale-av said:

@KMETE I cannot find a reference to a cold inlet of a message object in Max....... only https://docs.cycling74.com/max7/refpages/message
If you can post a link that would be useful.

In Pd a list..... like 1 2 3.... is distributed to the inlets of most objects. You can see that in use when you send a message into [line]. Is that what you mean by "connecting outlet of an object to multiple inlets of another object in one go"?
If not then maybe you are looking for a shortcut method for patching....https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/13471/shortcut-replacing-wires
David.

When using the right inlet of a message in max, the message box kind of behaves like a float module , a verry handy feature and strangely enough not really documented .
https://www.google.com/search?q=max+msp+right+inlet+of+message&rlz=1C1QPHC_nlBE953BE953&oq=max+msp+right+inlet+of+message+&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160.4914j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:58116efb,vid:5gFHaOQwBuE

@gentleclockdivider said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=max+msp+right+inlet+of+message&rlz=1C1QPHC_nlBE953BE953&oq=max+msp+right+inlet+of+message+&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160.4914j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:58116efb,vid:5gFHaOQwBuE

Thanks but I don't get it all the way. -
There is no way for typing numbers in performance mode and that they will be outputed when type is finished?

@KMETE said:

There is no way for typing numbers in performance mode and that they will be outputed when type is finished?

https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14166/zl-look-up-how-to-load-a-list-to-right-inlet/12 -- like, three posts up from this one

Well, OK... it's possible that there's a bug in PlugData's UI in the OS that you're using. I can promise you that in Linux, number boxes are definitely type-able.

hjh

@ddw_music
I see now. One must press enter in order the number he types to take place. I am used from MaxMSP that you can just press the anywhere outside the number box after the type and it will work.